tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2204879926038431717.post7125380274515188304..comments2022-11-15T14:47:10.058+00:00Comments on the way i see things: The labour party of 2011, Prospects for regaining the party, or not ?markwrightukhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05441220724259593793noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2204879926038431717.post-84939488902624634342011-08-01T19:46:34.691+01:002011-08-01T19:46:34.691+01:00You can go back a lot further to the death of the ...You can go back a lot further to the death of the Labour party, right back to Wilson who fought council workers over a living wage, to Wilson telling the people of Aberfan to use the money collected for the cleaning of the slag heaps from donations given to them for the death of their children.<br /><br />I come from the Valleys and let me tell you a lot of people saw labour in a different way.<br /><br />I joined labour in 1963 and left in 2007 what a waste of time and money, time helping out and money I could have used for a few pints down the club.<br /><br />Labours been a dead party to the working class way back, by the way I use to remember my dad and my grand dad argue politics with Nye Bevan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2204879926038431717.post-35346046785837688982011-07-12T10:20:43.816+01:002011-07-12T10:20:43.816+01:00Hi tim, You pose a interesting question but in ess...Hi tim, You pose a interesting question but in essense i'd say yes i would like there to be more resistance to these cuts going through that labour are helping with. The reason for labour loosing in 2011 is due to the fact people lost faith in them to work in their interests. since 1997 and tony blairs victory landslide labour had constintly lost votes election on election up to 5 million votes it is estimated. each election blair won his majority was cut each time. Untill they were eventaully turfed out. The fact that many middle class votrs stayed with labour and the ones who abandoned them were largely the working class tells a big story i feel. The fact that in the 1980's in liverpool Militant out polled other labour councils at the time because of the fact they stood on a no cuts platform opposing all the cuts drew in mass support.<br /> The fact that the national labour party was not electable at that time was partly down to the fact they had a crap leader in Neil Kinnock who was more interested in stabbing the left in the back than fighting the tories. The mLiverpool council in the 80's which was not run by Militant, we were not the majority back then but our ideas and influence carried to other labour councillors to build a mass campaign. It was successful as we won 60 million extra off the tories in concessions plus built 5000 new social housing far more than any other council at that time, keeping people employed in teh building trade plus didnt sack a single council employee. Now contrast that with todays labour party and labour councils and tell me what you'd prefer if your job was under attack from the cuts.markwrightukhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05441220724259593793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2204879926038431717.post-1250325913462360062011-07-12T10:07:05.833+01:002011-07-12T10:07:05.833+01:00Do you really think a return to the militant Liver...Do you really think a return to the militant Liverpool council days of the 1980s will help Labour? It would be a disaster as we'd end up being a laughing stock in the media and nobody would vote for us. Unfortunately we lost in 2010 as the country voted for parties on the right, not left. That shows that moving to the left is exactly what we shouldn't do.Tim McLoughlinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15152620862050412155noreply@blogger.com